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How Women Rise: Two Leadership and Coaching Rock Stars Collaborate to Write a Bestselling book. The timing couldn't be better. Are they Clairvoyant?

Welcome to a Leadership Channel podcast on TotalPicture - I'm your host, Peter Clayton. I'm delighted to welcome back to the show two acknowledged global leaders in their respective professions, Sally Helgesen is an internationally acclaimed author, speaker, and leadership development consultant, and also with us is her co-author of How Women Rise, Dr. Marshall Goldsmith who has been recognized as one of the top ten Most-Influential Business Thinkers in the World and the top-ranked executive coach at Thinkers50. Marshall is the author or editor of 36 books, which have sold well over two million copies, and become bestsellers in 12 countries.

Welcome back Sally and Marshall! You have certainly have been busy! For everyone tuned in -- their new book, How Women Rise Break the 12 Habits Holding You Back from Your Next Raise, Promotion, or Job, (which has been described as an instant classic by many reviewers), is all over social media, and together and individually they've been -- almost everywhere, it seems.


So I would like to start with this -- you are both rock stars in your chosen profession's and that's not an exaggeration that's just fact. So I'd like to know -- what do you do you attribute your tremendous success to? Is there any one thing, looking back at your career? Sally let's start with you.


As I said you've both been out on book tour together and individually. You were both at B&N in New York a few weeks ago -- what's been the most common question the women, and men attending these events have asked? Sally? Marshall?

Obviously you've both been extremely successful as authors, Marshall, bestsellers in 12 countries. Sally your book, The Web of Inclusion: A New Architecture for Building Great Organizations, was cited in The Wall Street Journal as one of the best books on leadership of all time. (that's pretty heady stuff) so what led to the collaboration -- writing this book together?

I would imagine you both have pretty specific approaches to writing your books, so what skills did you need incorporate to work together and what did you learn in this process?

Marshall, you were on this podcast in 2007 - your bestselling book What Got You Here Won't Get You There was the topic, in 2010 you were back to talk about your bestselling book Mojo, How to Get it, How to Keep It, How to Get it Back if you You Lose It in 2015 we discussed Triggers, Creating Behavior That Lasts - Becoming the Person You Want to Be -- I've always been amazed by your sense of timing. (And yes, those interviews are still live on TotalPicture, I'll link to them in the show notes) So now we have, How Women Rise -- could this book have been published at a better time? Are you clairvoyant? How are you able to tap into the collective psyche and know what people need?

I've been doing this show since 2005 (I know) one of the first things I learned from experts in career coaching is your job is not your career. There's a chapter in How Women Rise titled Putting your Job Before Your Career. Could you expand on this?

Marshall, I would imagine it was an amazing experience working with Sally -- focusing on a woman's perspective and aspirations relating to work, career, what did you learn?

Sally, Marshall is considered many the #1 CEO Coach what did you learn from him, writing How Women Rise?

What do you consider to be the most important message, or takeaway in How Women Rise?

Sally, of all of the challenges women face regarding career choices, certainly one of the most daunting is when to have children. Look at how the press has freaked out over Senator Tammy Duckworth. She will be the first senator to give birth! So what's your advice to women who want a successful career want to continue to advance into important leadership roles, but also want children?

I'd like to close with this From one of the 5 star reviews on Amazon "I rarely make sweeping, generalized recommendations like this but this is the first book I've ever read that I would literally recommend to every single woman- as well as the men who manage, coach, or mentor or women .. So basically anyone with moderate to high career aspirations should read this book. Eye opening and actionable with relateable anecdotes woven in, I would give this book six stars if I could."

It must be personally gratifying to know that the words you've put to paper have inspired and helped so many people.

How can our listeners connect with you. Sally? Marshall?

sally helgesenSally Helgesen is an internationally acclaimed author, speaker, and leadership development consultant. Her latest book, The Female Vision: Women's Real Power at Work, explores the strategic dimension of women's leadership. Her other books include The Female Advantage: Women's Ways of Leadership, hailed as "the classic work" on women's leadership style, translated into 12 languages and continually in print for twenty years, and The Web of Inclusion: A New Architecture for Building Great Organizations, cited in The Wall Street Journal as one of the best books on leadership of all time.

Sally delivers seminars, keynotes, and workshops for the world's leading corporations, associations, universities, and non-profits.

marshall goldsmith2Dr. Marshall Goldsmith has been recognized again as one of the top ten Most-Influential Business Thinkers in the World and the top-ranked executive coach at the 2013 biennial Thinkers50 ceremony in London!

Dr. Goldsmith is the author or editor of 35 books, which have sold over two million copies, been translated into 30 languages and become bestsellers in 12 countries. His newest book is Triggers: Creating Behavior That Lasts-Becoming the Person You Want to Be, on sale May 2015 from Crown Business. He has written two New York Times bestsellers, MOJO and What Got You Here Won't Get You There - a Wall Street Journal #1 business book and winner of the Harold Longman Award for Business Book of the Year.

Marshall's global professional acknowledgments include: Harvard Business Review - World's #1 Leadership Thinker, Institute for Management Studies - Lifetime Achievement Award (one of only two ever awarded), American Management Association - 50 great thinkers and leaders who have influenced the field of management over the past 80 years, BusinessWeek - 50 great leaders in America, Wall Street Journal - top ten executive educators, Forbes - five most-respected executive coaches, Leadership Excellence - top ten thinkers on leadership, Economic Times (India) - top CEO coaches, Harvard Business Review (Poland) - Leadership Thinker of the Decade, CEO Global (Canada) - World's #1 Leadership Speaker, Economist (UK) - most credible executive advisors in the new era of business, National Academy of Human Resources - Fellow of the Academy (America's top HR award), World HRD Congress - global leader in HR thinking, Tata Award (India) for Global HR Excellence, Fast Company - America's preeminent executive coach and Leader to Leader Institute - Leader of the Future Award. His work has been recognized by nearly every professional organization in his field.

Dr. Goldsmith's Ph.D. is from UCLA's Anderson School of Management where he was recognized as the Distinguished Alumnus of the Year. He teaches executive education at Dartmouth's Tuck School of Business. He is one of a select few executive advisors who have been asked to work with over 150 major CEOs and their management teams. He served on the Board of the Peter Drucker Foundation for ten years. He has been a volunteer teacher for US Army Generals, Navy Admirals, Girl Scout executives, International and American Red Cross leaders - where he was a National Volunteer of the Year.

Peter Clayton

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